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| Venue = Plymouth Hoe
| Venue = Plymouth Hoe
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| VenueRef = <ref name="ml20070805">
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| Event = Soundwave Festival
| Event = Soundwave Festival
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| EventRef = <ref name="mub20070802">
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  desc=Forum post | date=2007-08-02 | auth=Michael 'Stoner' Stone | pub=Muse forum | url=http://board.muse.mu/showpost.php?p=3263877&postcount=48 | dom=board.muse.mu | type=ext
  desc=Forum post | date=2007-08-02 | auth=Michael 'Stoner' Stone | pub=Muse forum | url=http://board.muse.mu/showpost.php?p=3263877&postcount=48 | dom=board.muse.mu | type=ext
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  desc=Forum post | date=2007-08-03 | fetch=2007-08-03 | auth=Sp@ceH | pub=Muselive | url=http://www.muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&p=820271#820271 | dom=www.muselive.com | type=ext
  desc=Forum post | date=2007-08-03 | fetch=2007-08-03 | auth=Sp@ceH | pub=Muselive | url=http://www.muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&p=820271#820271 | dom=www.muselive.com | type=ext
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| Date = 15{{supo|th}} August 1997
| Date = 15{{supo|th}} August 1997
| DateRef = <ref name="ml20070803c"/><ref name="presscutting">
| DateRef = <ref name="ml20070803c"/><ref name="presscutting">
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}}</ref><!-- festival was 3 days long, finishing on the 17th --><ref name="mub20070803a">
}}</ref><!-- festival was 3 days long, finishing on the 17th --><ref name="mub20070803a">
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  desc=Forum post | date=2007-08-03 | fetch=2007-10-07 | auth=Michael 'Stoner' Stone | pub=Muse forum | url=http://board.muse.mu/showpost.php?p=3265843&postcount=50 | dom=board.muse.mu | type=ext
  desc=Forum post | date=2007-08-03 | fetch=2007-10-07 | auth=Michael 'Stoner' Stone | pub=Muse forum | url=http://board.muse.mu/showpost.php?p=3265843&postcount=50 | dom=board.muse.mu | type=ext
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| Songs = 13
| Songs = 13
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  desc=Forum post | date=2007-11-01 | 2007-11-01 | auth=Michael 'Stoner' Stone | pub=Muselive | url=http://www.muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&p=909061#909061 | dom=www.muselive.com | type=ext
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| Price = Free
| Price = Free
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| PriceRef = <ref name="bt">
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  title=PLYMOUTH SOUNDWAVES CONCERT -17 AUGUST 1997 | desc=Bonnie Tyler performance writeup | fetch=2007-10-07 | pub=bonnietyler.com | url=http://bonnietyler.com/plymouth2.html | dom=bonnietyler.com | type=ext
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== Media ==
== Media ==
Muse's performance was broadcast over a local radio station.  Michael Stone, or his brother, made a tape recording of this broadcast.<ref name="mub20070803a"/><ref name="ml20070803c"/>  Of this, a clip of ''Overdue'' surfaced on the 8{{supo|th}} of August<ref name="ml20070803a">
Muse's performance was broadcast over a local radio station.  Michael Stone, or his brother, made a tape recording of this broadcast.<ref name="mub20070803a"/><ref name="ml20070803c"/>  Of this, a clip of ''Overdue'' surfaced on the 8{{supo|th}} of August<ref name="ml20070803a">
{{cite/web |
{{cite |
  title=muse plymouth 1997 | desc=Forum post | date=2007-08-03 | fetch=2007-08-03 | auth=mattocaster17 | pub=Muselive | url=http://www.muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=26371 | dom=www.muselive.com | type=ext
  title=muse plymouth 1997 | desc=Forum post | date=2007-08-03 | fetch=2007-08-03 | auth=mattocaster17 | pub=Muselive | url=http://www.muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=26371 | dom=www.muselive.com | type=ext
}}</ref> and of Spiral Static on the 31{{supo|st}} October.<ref name="ml20071101a">
}}</ref> and of Spiral Static on the 31{{supo|st}} October.<ref name="ml20071101a">
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  desc=Forum post | date=2007-11-01 | auth=Michael 'Stoner' Stone | pub=Muselive | url=http://www.muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&p=908894#908894 | dom=www.muselive.com | type=ext
  desc=Forum post | date=2007-11-01 | auth=Michael 'Stoner' Stone | pub=Muselive | url=http://www.muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&p=908894#908894 | dom=www.muselive.com | type=ext
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A recording of the whole tape can be obtained [http://www.muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=40756 here].


As well as the Soundwaves gig, this recording also has five songs at the end.<ref name="ml20071101"/><ref name="ml20090909">
As well as the Soundwaves gig, this recording also has five songs at the end.<ref name="ml20071101"/><ref name="ml20090909">
{{cite/web |
{{cite |
  desc=Forum post | date=2009-09-09 | fetch=2009-09-18 | auth=Michael 'Stoner' Stone | pub=Muselive | url=http://www.muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&p=1686875#1686875 | dom=www.muselive.com | type=ext
  desc=Forum post | date=2009-09-09 | fetch=2009-09-18 | auth=Michael 'Stoner' Stone | pub=Muselive | url=http://www.muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&p=1686875#1686875 | dom=www.muselive.com | type=ext
}}</ref> In order, they are:
}}</ref> In order, they are:
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These songs contain no crowd noise and thus have been speculated by Stoner as possibly being a demo.<ref name="ml20071101"/>  Of these, ''Spiral Static'', ''Hate This & I'll Love You'' and ''Plug In Baby'' were substantially different from their final incarnations.<ref name="ml20071101"/>  The tape was sent to Paul Nicko by Michael Stone around the same time as the [[Newton Abbot demo (demo) | Newton Abbot demo tape]], but it went missing/lost in transit.<ref name="ml20080508">
These songs contain no crowd noise and thus have been speculated by Stoner as possibly being a demo.<ref name="ml20071101"/>  Of these, ''Spiral Static'', ''Hate This & I'll Love You'' and ''Plug In Baby'' were substantially different from their final incarnations.<ref name="ml20071101"/>  The tape was sent to Paul Nicko by Michael Stone around the same time as the [[Newton Abbot demo (demo) | Newton Abbot demo tape]], but it went missing/lost in transit.<ref name="ml20080508">
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  desc=Forum post | date=2008-05-08 | fetch=2008-05-09 | auth=paul_nicko | pub=Muselive | url=http://www.muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&p=1118760#1118760 | dom=www.muselive.com | type=ext
  desc=Forum post | date=2008-05-08 | fetch=2008-05-09 | auth=paul_nicko | pub=Muselive | url=http://www.muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&p=1118760#1118760 | dom=www.muselive.com | type=ext
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{{cite/web |
{{cite/web |
  title=Plymouth Soundwaves 1997 bootleg | desc=Forum topic | date=2009-09-06 | fetch=2009-09-18 | auth=Michael 'Stoner' Stone | pub=Muselive | url=http://www.muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=40692 | dom=www.muselive.com | type=ext
  title=Plymouth Soundwaves 1997 bootleg | desc=Forum topic | date=2009-09-06 | fetch=2009-09-18 | auth=Michael 'Stoner' Stone | pub=Muselive | url=http://www.muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=40692 | dom=www.muselive.com | type=ext
}}</ref>
}}</ref> A copy of this rip can be obtained {{MLh |40756}}.


{{setlist
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Revision as of 02:38, 22 August 2011

Muse show
Venue Plymouth Hoe[1] (Soundwave Festival[2][3])
Date 15th August 1997[3][4][5]
Location Plymouth[5]
Country United Kingdom
Songs 13[5][6]
Support Unknown
Start (UTC+1) Unknown
Capacity Unknown
Price Free[7]
Sold out? Unknown


Muse performed on Friday the 15th of August,[4] at the Soundwaves festival in Plymouth.[2] The festival took place on the Hoe, a promenade on the sea front, and spanned from the 15th to the 17th.[7]

Matthew Bellamy purportedly had a Pro Co RAT pedal, which stopped working and he kicked it around for "5 minutes".[1]

Michael "Stoner" Stone, the author of the recording, was acquainted with the band at the time of this performance.[6] Bellamy addressed him as "Stoney" before Overdue.[8] This was the debut of Hate This & I'll Love you, as Bellamy said at the end of said song.[6]

Speech

After Sober Bellamy "Thank you".
Before Muscle Museum "Thank you very much. This song is called Muscle Museum".
After Muscle Museum "Thank you".
After Escape "Thank you very much".
After Spiral Static "Thank you".
After Agitated "Thank you! ... This next song is called Instant Messenger".
Before Fillip "This song is called Fillip".
Before Overdue "Thank you. Uh, how are we doing for time? ... Uh, right uh, this next song is on our CD, it's called Overdue. Right Stoney? Uh, yeah, it's a good song".[8]
After Overdue "Thank you".
After Hate This & I'll Love You "Thank you. First time we've ever played it, ever. ... Well cheers. [away from mic] What?"

Media

Muse's performance was broadcast over a local radio station. Michael Stone, or his brother, made a tape recording of this broadcast.[5][3] Of this, a clip of Overdue surfaced on the 8th of August[9] and of Spiral Static on the 31st October.[10]

As well as the Soundwaves gig, this recording also has five songs at the end.[6][11] In order, they are:

  1. Spiral Static
  2. Plug In Baby
  3. Do We Need This
  4. Hate This & I'll love You
  5. Showbiz

These songs contain no crowd noise and thus have been speculated by Stoner as possibly being a demo.[6] Of these, Spiral Static, Hate This & I'll Love You and Plug In Baby were substantially different from their final incarnations.[6] The tape was sent to Paul Nicko by Michael Stone around the same time as the Newton Abbot demo tape, but it went missing/lost in transit.[12]

The plan was for the tape to be ripped in the same fashion as the Newton Abbot demo. When the tape went missing in the post, those involved waited in case the tape was recovered. In September 2009 however, they gave up and released a rip made by Michael Stone before the tape was posted.[11] A copy of this rip can be obtained here[registration needed].

Setlist

References

  1. a b Alex 'uno_axl'. (2007-08-05). [Forum post]. Muselive. Retrieved 2007-08-05 from www.muselive.com.
  2. a b Michael 'Stoner' Stone. (2007-08-02). [Forum post]. Muse forum. Retrieved from board.muse.mu.
  3. a b c Sp@ceH. (2007-08-03). [Forum post]. Muselive. Retrieved 2007-08-03 from www.muselive.com.
  4. a b (1997). [Press Cutting]. Retrieved 2009-02-03. [verify]
  5. a b c d Michael 'Stoner' Stone. (2007-08-03). [Forum post]. Muse forum. Retrieved 2007-10-07 from board.muse.mu.
  6. a b c d e f Michael 'Stoner' Stone. (2007-11-01). [Forum post]. Muselive. Retrieved from www.muselive.com.
  7. a b PLYMOUTH SOUNDWAVES CONCERT -17 AUGUST 1997. bonnietyler.com. Retrieved 2007-10-07 from bonnietyler.com.
  8. a b Recording
  9. mattocaster17. (2007-08-03). muse plymouth 1997. Muselive. Retrieved 2007-08-03 from www.muselive.com.
  10. Michael 'Stoner' Stone. (2007-11-01). [Forum post]. Muselive. Retrieved from www.muselive.com.
  11. a b Michael 'Stoner' Stone. (2009-09-09). [Forum post]. Muselive. Retrieved 2009-09-18 from www.muselive.com. Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; name "ml20090909" defined multiple times with different content
  12. paul_nicko. (2008-05-08). [Forum post]. Muselive. Retrieved 2008-05-09 from www.muselive.com.

See also


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