Talk:Animals (tablature)

Hello there, I replaced the previous tab which was made by rainwater34 on Ultimate-Guitar with mine which I made almost 100% on my own (except little parts where I referred to rainwater's tab.). I put in a lot of hard work into this so please use the talk page to let me know what changes you will make/have made. I will gladly appreciate it.

No offense to Michael who posted the one made by rainwater here on MuseWiki.

--Minimal (talk) 15:41, 3 October 2012 (BST)

I haven't made any edits to the tab itself, but just a few things I wanted to point out. As per the Making Of video for The 2nd Law, Matt's Strat is tuned down a half step across the board. I know that's common knowledge, this isn't the relevant part.

The part of the tab immediately following "Animal, you're an animal, don't take anything less" starts out quite a bit differently than you have tabbed.

I'm fairly certain it starts off on the B string as "7-8-10~" which translates to "8-9-11~" in standard. Of this I am 100% certain as per the video, unless the way he plays it live and/or the video doesn't necessarily correspond with the audio on the studio version of the song. This changes the way this section (and a couple other sections) should be played dramatically, if you're looking to copy Matt's way of playing it as close as possible.

The hammer-ons/pull-offs on the G I believe are also played on B immediately following the 9th fret on the B-string. I'm not 100% sure of the tab but I just wanted to throw this out there to maybe change the baseline you're working with on this.

I would also like to point out that the 'Solo 2' you have tabbed out sounds and feels a lot more comfortable when played the way it was previously tabbed by the guy on Ultimate Guitar.

Just some fair criticism. Decent tab otherwise.

--Seanic (talk) 10:55, 4 October 2012 (BST)

Hello Seanic, thanks for pointing that out, I have my guitar on my lap, the making of 2nd law open on YouTube and am ready to tab out that part again, thanks : )

I was actually trying to aim for a more studio version of the song, of the parts where I can see Matt play on the making video, I try to follow. The rest I try to watch live footage, but it isn't easy because not only is Matt's guitar so small from a distance, he also improvises many parts.

Update: I have modified many parts because after a good night's sleep, I awake to find many mistakes in my tab!

--Minimal (talk) 13:26, 4 October 2012 (BST)

Keep the improvements and discussions going, however I'm going to post my version of the tab on Ultimate-Guitar, because I disagree with some of the modifications being made here. They still sound nice, just not what I would agree with.

Also, I'm slightly angered by some users who do not use the talk page before modifying the tab. No cooperation at all.

Minimal (talk) 09:48, 5 October 2012 (BST) out

Uh, this is not Ultimate Guitar, this is a wiki. Modifying is the whole point. If you want to have your own personal tab then you should really post it on UG. Time Q (talk) 10:06, 5 October 2012 (BST)

I know, I just wanted some cooperation. I wanted this to be on Musewiki, for the Muse community so that all of us can join forces to make the best tab ever. I said before I don't really care, maybe feel a little hurt when people modify the hell out of my tab, but at least tell me WHY the modifications were made or something. What happened leaves me no room to agree, disagree, debate and discuss why certain changes were made with other users. Instead what I got now was some phantom who changed it, and disappeared.

A wiki is also a place to discuss, that's why there is a talk page, but apparently people don't know how to use it.

I'll remember to put any tabs on Ultimate Guitar next time. My honest mistake.

--Minimal (talk) 10:18, 5 October 2012 (BST)