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::If this is a song then surely {{Man with a Harmonica}} should be too? {{WilfSig}} 02:40, 24 September 2009 (BST) | ::If this is a song then surely {{Man with a Harmonica}} should be too? {{WilfSig}} 02:40, 24 September 2009 (BST) | ||
:::Going by the criteria of being both played in full and listed on the set list as a song (rather than as a riff or jam, or appended by a "+" to another song), then it probably should be (for example, it was listed on the set list for [[Dublin Marlay Park 2008 (gig)|Marlay Park]]), right? Is that criteria sufficient to differentiate songs from riffs/jams? --[[User:Dyingatheist|Dyingatheist]] 03:50, 24 September 2009 (BST) | :::Going by the criteria of being both played in full and listed on the set list as a song (rather than as a riff or jam, or appended by a "+" to another song), then it probably should be (for example, it was listed on the set list for [[Dublin Marlay Park 2008 (gig)|Marlay Park]]), right? Is that criteria sufficient to differentiate songs from riffs/jams? --[[User:Dyingatheist|Dyingatheist]] 03:50, 24 September 2009 (BST) | ||
::::I disagree. Popcorn was performed as a standalone song, whereas Harmonica (even though it was listed) was still only an intro to Knights. Etude was also simply an intro to Unintended or TIRO, and thus does not warrant an article. Popcorn is a straight-up cover, not an intro/outro riff/jam. [[User:Andre666|Andre666]] 15:48, 24 September 2009 (BST) | |||
:::::Etude Simples #6 was performed as an introduction, like MWTH, but was also not listed on the set list as a song. Popcorn, MWTH, and Dracula Mountain were all listed on the set list and performed as full covers rather than jams, and even though both MWTH and Dracula Mountain were performed as introductions (for Knights of Cydonia and Hysteria, respectively), Dracula Mountain still has its own song page. So it seems like all three should probably have song pages, I think. --[[User:Dyingatheist|Dyingatheist]] 18:52, 24 September 2009 (BST) | |||
::::::I think MWAH may well qualify for having its own article if ever played in full, but for now it has only been played as an excerpt. It serves just as an intro to KoC. If MWAH ever appears elsewhere in setlists or takes on a more signigicant presence then it may well quality. Popcorn is a full standalone cover and may have been recorded in thre studio. [[User:۞|Niall]] 18:57, 24 September 2009 (BST) | |||
[[User:Danooch]]-Ya, the song is a B-side now so it has been recorded in the studio. For the song player thingy on this page somebody should get the studio version. | |||
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Why does this have a song page? It's not recorded, so it should only be on Riffs and jams --frozenjakalope 17:29, 15 September 2009 (BST)
- Dracula Mountain has a song page too, and it's only appeared as a live cover. Most of those listed under Riffs and Jams are sections of songs rather than their full forms, but then again songs such Etude Simples #6 were played live in full and are still listed under Riffs and Jams. Maybe it's the difference between the song being used as an intro/outro rather than being played as a full cover version (as indicated on the set list)? -Dyingatheist 17:52, 15 September 2009
- If this is a song then surely Man With a Harmonica should be too? Wilf Talk 02:40, 24 September 2009 (BST)
- Going by the criteria of being both played in full and listed on the set list as a song (rather than as a riff or jam, or appended by a "+" to another song), then it probably should be (for example, it was listed on the set list for Marlay Park), right? Is that criteria sufficient to differentiate songs from riffs/jams? --Dyingatheist 03:50, 24 September 2009 (BST)
- I disagree. Popcorn was performed as a standalone song, whereas Harmonica (even though it was listed) was still only an intro to Knights. Etude was also simply an intro to Unintended or TIRO, and thus does not warrant an article. Popcorn is a straight-up cover, not an intro/outro riff/jam. Andre666 15:48, 24 September 2009 (BST)
- Etude Simples #6 was performed as an introduction, like MWTH, but was also not listed on the set list as a song. Popcorn, MWTH, and Dracula Mountain were all listed on the set list and performed as full covers rather than jams, and even though both MWTH and Dracula Mountain were performed as introductions (for Knights of Cydonia and Hysteria, respectively), Dracula Mountain still has its own song page. So it seems like all three should probably have song pages, I think. --Dyingatheist 18:52, 24 September 2009 (BST)
- I think MWAH may well qualify for having its own article if ever played in full, but for now it has only been played as an excerpt. It serves just as an intro to KoC. If MWAH ever appears elsewhere in setlists or takes on a more signigicant presence then it may well quality. Popcorn is a full standalone cover and may have been recorded in thre studio. Niall 18:57, 24 September 2009 (BST)
- Etude Simples #6 was performed as an introduction, like MWTH, but was also not listed on the set list as a song. Popcorn, MWTH, and Dracula Mountain were all listed on the set list and performed as full covers rather than jams, and even though both MWTH and Dracula Mountain were performed as introductions (for Knights of Cydonia and Hysteria, respectively), Dracula Mountain still has its own song page. So it seems like all three should probably have song pages, I think. --Dyingatheist 18:52, 24 September 2009 (BST)
- I disagree. Popcorn was performed as a standalone song, whereas Harmonica (even though it was listed) was still only an intro to Knights. Etude was also simply an intro to Unintended or TIRO, and thus does not warrant an article. Popcorn is a straight-up cover, not an intro/outro riff/jam. Andre666 15:48, 24 September 2009 (BST)
- Going by the criteria of being both played in full and listed on the set list as a song (rather than as a riff or jam, or appended by a "+" to another song), then it probably should be (for example, it was listed on the set list for Marlay Park), right? Is that criteria sufficient to differentiate songs from riffs/jams? --Dyingatheist 03:50, 24 September 2009 (BST)
- If this is a song then surely Man With a Harmonica should be too? Wilf Talk 02:40, 24 September 2009 (BST)
User:Danooch-Ya, the song is a B-side now so it has been recorded in the studio. For the song player thingy on this page somebody should get the studio version.