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| Venue = Plymouth Hoe
| Venue = Plymouth Hoe
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| EventName = Soundwave Festival
| Event = Soundwave Festival
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| EventRef = <ref name="ds">{{cite/Dark Shines – tour1997}}</ref><ref name="mub20070802">
{{cite | desc=Muse forum post | date=2007-08-02 | auth=Michael Stone | url=http://board.muse.mu/showpost.php?p=3263877&postcount=48 | dom=board.muse.mu | type=ext
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desc=Forum post | date=2007-08-02 | auth=Michael 'Stoner' Stone | pub=Muse forum | url=http://board.muse.mu/showpost.php?p=3263877&postcount=48 | dom=board.muse.mu | type=ext
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| Date = 15th August 1997
| Date = 15{{supo|th}} August 1997
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| DateRef = <ref name="ds"/><!-- Dark Shines only gives month and year --><ref name="ml20070803c"/><ref name="presscutting">
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| Location = Plymouth
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| Country = United Kingdom
| Country = United Kingdom
| Songs = 13
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| Zone = UTC+1
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| Price = Free
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Muse performed on Friday the 15th of August<ref name="presscutting"/> at the Soundwaves festival in Plymouth.<ref name="mub20070802"/> The festival took place on the Hoe, a prominade on the sea front, and spanned from the 15th to the 17th.<ref name="bt"/>.
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| Previous = [[Torquay New Railway Inn 1997-08 (gig) | New Railway Inn]]
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Muse performed on Friday the 15{{supo|th}} of August,<ref name="presscutting"/> at the ''Soundwaves'' festival in Plymouth.<ref name="mub20070802"/> The festival took place on the ''Hoe'', a promenade on the sea front, and spanned from the 15{{supo|th}} to the 17{{supo|th}}.<ref name="bt"/>


Matthew Bellamy purportedly had a Pro Co RAT pedal, which stopped working and he kicked it around for "5 minutes".<ref name="ml20070805"/>
[[Matthew Bellamy]] purportedly had a ''Pro Co RAT'' pedal, which stopped working and he kicked it around for "5 minutes".<ref name="ml20070805"/>


Michael "Stoner" Stone, the author of the recording, was acquainted with the band at the time of this performance.<ref name="ml20071101"/> Bellamy addressed him as "Stoney" before Overdue.<ref name="rec">Recording</ref> This was the debut of Hate This & I'll Love you, as Dominic Howard said at the end of said song.<ref name="ml20071101"/>
Michael "Stoner" Stone, the author of the recording, was acquainted with the band at the time of this performance.<ref name="ml20071101"/> Bellamy addressed him as "Stoney" before ''Overdue''.<ref name="rec">Recording</ref> This was the debut of ''Hate This & I'll Love'' you, as Bellamy said at the end of said song.<ref name="ml20071101"/>


====Speech====
== Speech ==
{|{{Speechtable}}
{|{{Speechtable}}
|After Spiral Static||rowspan=2|Bellamy||"Thank you".<ref name="rec"/>
| After Sober || rowspan="10" | [[Matthew Bellamy | Bellamy]] || "Thank you".
|-
| Before Muscle Museum || "Thank you very much.  This song is called ''Muscle Museum''".
|-
| After Muscle Museum || "Thank you".
|-
| After Escape || "Thank you very much".
|-
| After Spiral Static || "Thank you".
|-
| After Agitated || "Thank you! ... This next song is called ''Instant Messenger''".
|-
| Before Fillip || "This song is called ''Fillip''".
|-
| Before Overdue || "Thank you.  Uh, how are we doing for time? ...  Uh, right uh, this next song is on our CD, it's called ''Overdue''.  Right Stoney?  Uh, yeah, it's a good song".<ref name="rec"/>
|-
| After Overdue || "Thank you".
|-
|-
|Before Overdue||"Uh, how are we doing for time? ... Uh, right uh, this next song is on our CD, it's called Overdue. Right Stoney? Uh, yeah, it's a good song".<ref name="rec"/>
| After Hate This & I'll Love You || "Thank you.  First time we've ever played it, ever. ... Well cheers. [''away from mic'']  What?"
|}
|}


====Media====
== Media ==
Muse's performance was broadcast over a local radio station. Michael Stone, or his brother, made a tape recording of this broadcast.<ref name="mub20070803a"/><ref name="ml20070803c"/> Of this, a clip of Overdue surfaced on the 8th of August<ref name="ml20070803a">
Muse's performance was broadcast over a local radio station. Michael Stone, or his brother, made a tape recording of this broadcast.<ref name="mub20070803a"/><ref name="ml20070803c"/> Of this, a clip of ''Overdue'' surfaced on the 8{{supo|th}} of August<ref name="ml20070803a">
{{cite | title=muse plymouth 1997 | desc=Muselive forum post | date=2007-08-03 | auth=mattocaster17 | url=http://muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=26371 | dom=muselive.com | type=ext
{{cite |
}}</ref> and of Spiral Static on the 31st October.<ref name="ml20071101a">
title=muse plymouth 1997 | desc=Forum post | date=2007-08-03 | fetch=2007-08-03 | auth=mattocaster17 | pub=Muselive | url=http://www.muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=26371 | dom=www.muselive.com | type=ext
{{cite | desc=Muselive forum post | date=2007-11-01 | auth= Michael Stone | url=http://muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&p=908894#908894 | dom=muselive.com | type=ext
}}</ref> and of Spiral Static on the 31{{supo|st}} October.<ref name="ml20071101a">
}}</ref>
{{cite |
Overdue can be found [http://orbitfiles.com/download/id1685140429?force here] and Spiral Static [http://orbitfiles.com/download/id2146395331.html here].
desc=Forum post | date=2007-11-01 | auth=Michael 'Stoner' Stone | pub=Muselive | url=http://www.muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&p=908894#908894 | dom=www.muselive.com | type=ext
}}</ref>


As well as the Soundwaves gig, this recording also has four songs at the end.<ref name="ml20071101"/> In order, they are:
As well as the Soundwaves gig, this recording also has five songs at the end.<ref name="ml20071101"/><ref name="ml20090909">
#[[Spiral Static (song)|Spiral Static]]
{{cite |
#[[Hate This and I'll Love You (song)|Hate This & I'll love You]]
desc=Forum post | date=2009-09-09 | fetch=2009-09-18 | auth=Michael 'Stoner' Stone | pub=Muselive | url=http://www.muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&p=1686875#1686875 | dom=www.muselive.com | type=ext
#[[Showbiz (song)|Showbiz]]
}}</ref> In order, they are:
#[[Plug In Baby (song)|Plug In Baby]]
# [[Spiral Static (song) | Spiral Static]]
# [[Plug In Baby (song) | Plug In Baby]]
# [[Do We Need This (song) | Do We Need This]]
# [[Hate This & I'll Love You (song) | Hate This & I'll love You]]
# [[Showbiz (song) | Showbiz]]


These songs contain no crowd noise and thus have been speculated by Stoner as possibly being a demo.<ref name="ml20071101"/> Of these, Spiral Static, Hate This & I'll Love You and Plug In Baby were substantially different to their final incarnations.<ref name="ml20071101"/> The tape was sent to Paul Nicko by Michael Stone around the same time as the Newtown Demo Tape, but it's status currently is unknown and is assumed to be missing/lost in transit by the postal service.  It is unknown if Stone had made copies/rip's of the tape or if their are any other copies circulating out there.<ref name="ml20080508">
These songs contain no crowd noise and thus have been speculated by Stoner as possibly being a demo.<ref name="ml20071101"/> Of these, ''Spiral Static'', ''Hate This & I'll Love You'' and ''Plug In Baby'' were substantially different from their final incarnations.<ref name="ml20071101"/> The tape was sent to Paul Nicko by Michael Stone around the same time as the [[Newton Abbot demo (demo) | Newton Abbot demo tape]], but it went missing/lost in transit.<ref name="ml20080508">
{{cite | desc = Muselive forum post | date = 2008-05-08 | auth = paul_nicko | url = http://muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&p=1118760#1118760 | dom = muselive.com | type = ext
{{cite |
desc=Forum post | date=2008-05-08 | fetch=2008-05-09 | auth=paul_nicko | pub=Muselive | url=http://www.muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&p=1118760#1118760 | dom=www.muselive.com | type=ext
}}</ref>
}}</ref>
The plan was for the tape to be ripped in the same fashion as the Newton Abbot demo. When the tape went missing in the post, those involved waited in case the tape was recovered.  In September 2009 however, they gave up and released a rip made by Michael Stone before the tape was posted.<ref name="ml20090909">
{{cite |
title=Plymouth Soundwaves 1997 bootleg | desc=Forum topic | date=2009-09-06 | fetch=2009-09-18 | auth=Michael 'Stoner' Stone | pub=Muselive | url=http://www.muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=40692 | dom=www.muselive.com | type=ext
}}</ref>  A copy of this rip could be obtained on MuseLive before it went down, though it is now available to listen to below.


{{setlist
{{setlist
| 01 = Sober
| 01 = Sober | 01app = {{DMl|x4vtil0}}
| 02 = Host
| 02 = Host | 02app = {{DMl|x4uaxoe}}
| 03 = Cave
| 03 = Cave | 03app = {{DMl|x4vtb7e}}
| 04 = Muscle Museum
| 04 = Muscle Museum | 04app = {{DMl|x4vtejx}}
| 05 = Escape
| 05 = Escape | 05app = {{DMl|x4ughp2}}
| 06 = Spiral Static
| 06 = Spiral Static | 06app = {{DMl|x4th8ms}}
| 07 = Agitated
| 07 = Agitated | 07app = {{DMl|x4vtaga}}
| 08link = Pink Ego Box (song)| 08 = Instant Messenger
| 08link = Pink Ego Box (song) | 08 = Instant Messenger | 08app = {{DMl|x4ueq28}}
| 09 = Fillip
| 09 = Fillip | 09app = {{DMl|x4vtdr8}}
| 10 = Nature_1
| 10 = Nature_1 | 10app = {{DMl|x4vtfn0}}
| 11 = Overdue
| 11 = Overdue | 11app = {{VMl|189095362}}
| 12link = Hate This and I'll Love You (song) | 12 = Hate This & I'll love You
| 12 = Hate This & I'll Love You | 12app = {{DMl|x4vu6cl}}
| 13 = Do We Need This
}}
}}


==References==
== References ==
<references/>
<references/>


==See also==
== See also ==
*[[Plymouth Hoe (venue)|Plymouth Hoe]]
* [[Plymouth Hoe]]
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[[Category:Recorded performances]]

Latest revision as of 20:19, 20 August 2019

Muse Flyer
Muse show
Venue Plymouth Hoe[1] (Soundwave Festival[2][3][4])
Date 15th August 1997[2][4][5][6]
Location Plymouth[2][6]
Country United Kingdom
Songs 13[6][7]
Support Unknown
Start (UTC+1) Unknown
Capacity Unknown
Price Free[8]
Sold out? Unknown




Muse performed on Friday the 15th of August,[5] at the Soundwaves festival in Plymouth.[3] The festival took place on the Hoe, a promenade on the sea front, and spanned from the 15th to the 17th.[8]

Matthew Bellamy purportedly had a Pro Co RAT pedal, which stopped working and he kicked it around for "5 minutes".[1]

Michael "Stoner" Stone, the author of the recording, was acquainted with the band at the time of this performance.[7] Bellamy addressed him as "Stoney" before Overdue.[9] This was the debut of Hate This & I'll Love you, as Bellamy said at the end of said song.[7]

Speech

After Sober Bellamy "Thank you".
Before Muscle Museum "Thank you very much. This song is called Muscle Museum".
After Muscle Museum "Thank you".
After Escape "Thank you very much".
After Spiral Static "Thank you".
After Agitated "Thank you! ... This next song is called Instant Messenger".
Before Fillip "This song is called Fillip".
Before Overdue "Thank you. Uh, how are we doing for time? ... Uh, right uh, this next song is on our CD, it's called Overdue. Right Stoney? Uh, yeah, it's a good song".[9]
After Overdue "Thank you".
After Hate This & I'll Love You "Thank you. First time we've ever played it, ever. ... Well cheers. [away from mic] What?"

Media

Muse's performance was broadcast over a local radio station. Michael Stone, or his brother, made a tape recording of this broadcast.[6][4] Of this, a clip of Overdue surfaced on the 8th of August[10] and of Spiral Static on the 31st October.[11]

As well as the Soundwaves gig, this recording also has five songs at the end.[7][12] In order, they are:

  1. Spiral Static
  2. Plug In Baby
  3. Do We Need This
  4. Hate This & I'll love You
  5. Showbiz

These songs contain no crowd noise and thus have been speculated by Stoner as possibly being a demo.[7] Of these, Spiral Static, Hate This & I'll Love You and Plug In Baby were substantially different from their final incarnations.[7] The tape was sent to Paul Nicko by Michael Stone around the same time as the Newton Abbot demo tape, but it went missing/lost in transit.[13]

The plan was for the tape to be ripped in the same fashion as the Newton Abbot demo. When the tape went missing in the post, those involved waited in case the tape was recovered. In September 2009 however, they gave up and released a rip made by Michael Stone before the tape was posted.[12] A copy of this rip could be obtained on MuseLive before it went down, though it is now available to listen to below.

Setlist

References

  1. ↑ a b Alex 'uno_axl'. (2007-08-05). [Forum post]. Muselive. Retrieved 2007-08-05 from www.muselive.com.
  2. ↑ a b c (2002-04-13). [1997 tour archive]. Dark Shines. Retrieved 2011-04-25 from rocketbabydolls.com.
  3. ↑ a b Michael 'Stoner' Stone. (2007-08-02). [Forum post]. Muse forum. Retrieved from board.muse.mu.
  4. ↑ a b c Sp@ceH. (2007-08-03). [Forum post]. Muselive. Retrieved 2007-08-03 from www.muselive.com.
  5. ↑ a b (1997). [Press Cutting]. Retrieved 2009-02-03. [verify]
  6. ↑ a b c d Michael 'Stoner' Stone. (2007-08-03). [Forum post]. Muse forum. Retrieved 2007-10-07 from board.muse.mu.
  7. ↑ a b c d e f Michael 'Stoner' Stone. (2007-11-01). [Forum post]. Muselive. Retrieved from www.muselive.com.
  8. ↑ a b PLYMOUTH SOUNDWAVES CONCERT -17 AUGUST 1997. bonnietyler.com. Retrieved 2007-10-07 from bonnietyler.com.
  9. ↑ a b Recording
  10. ↑ mattocaster17. (2007-08-03). muse plymouth 1997. Muselive. Retrieved 2007-08-03 from www.muselive.com.
  11. ↑ Michael 'Stoner' Stone. (2007-11-01). [Forum post]. Muselive. Retrieved from www.muselive.com.
  12. ↑ a b Michael 'Stoner' Stone. (2009-09-09). [Forum post]. Muselive. Retrieved 2009-09-18 from www.muselive.com. Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; name "ml20090909" defined multiple times with different content
  13. ↑ paul_nicko. (2008-05-08). [Forum post]. Muselive. Retrieved 2008-05-09 from www.muselive.com.

See also


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