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(rm redundant pipe; update cite layouts; add link to download; add to Category:Speech transcription needed now that there's a recording available)
(Showbiz was on the tape, which makes a total of five non-gig songs; add www prefix to muselive links, add update about the tape/recording.)
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| Date = 15th August 1997
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Muse's performance was broadcast over a local radio station. Michael Stone, or his brother, made a tape recording of this broadcast.<ref name="mub20070803a"/><ref name="ml20070803c"/> Of this, a clip of Overdue surfaced on the 8th of August<ref name="ml20070803a">
Muse's performance was broadcast over a local radio station. Michael Stone, or his brother, made a tape recording of this broadcast.<ref name="mub20070803a"/><ref name="ml20070803c"/> Of this, a clip of Overdue surfaced on the 8th of August<ref name="ml20070803a">
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  title=muse plymouth 1997 | desc=Muselive forum post | date=2007-08-03 | auth=mattocaster17 | url=http://muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=26371 | dom=muselive.com | type=ext
  title=muse plymouth 1997 | desc=Muselive forum post | date=2007-08-03 | auth=mattocaster17 | url=http://www.muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=26371 | dom=www.muselive.com | type=ext
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}}</ref> and of Spiral Static on the 31st October.<ref name="ml20071101a">
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A recording of the whole tape<!--minus Hate This & I'll Love You and Showbiz, which will be uploaded soon...--> can be obtained [http://www.muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=40756 here].
A recording of the whole tape<!--minus Hate This & I'll Love You and Showbiz, which will be uploaded soon...--> can be obtained [http://www.muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=40756 here].


As well as the Soundwaves gig, this recording also has four songs at the end.<ref name="ml20071101"/> In order, they are:
As well as the Soundwaves gig, this recording also has five songs at the end.<ref name="ml20071101"/><ref name="ml20090909">
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desc=Muselive post | date=2009-09-09 | fetch=2009-09-18 | auth=Michael 'Stoner' Stone | url=http://www.muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&p=1686875#1686875 | dom=www.muselive.com | type=ext
}}</ref> In order, they are:
#[[Spiral Static (song) | Spiral Static]]
#[[Spiral Static (song) | Spiral Static]]
#[[Plug In Baby (song) | Plug In Baby]]
#[[Plug In Baby (song) | Plug In Baby]]
#[[Do We Need This (song) | Do We Need This]]
#[[Do We Need This (song) | Do We Need This]]
#[[Hate This & I'll Love You (song) | Hate This & I'll love You]]
#[[Hate This & I'll Love You (song) | Hate This & I'll love You]]
#[[Showbiz (song) | Showbiz]]


These songs contain no crowd noise and thus have been speculated by Stoner as possibly being a demo.<ref name="ml20071101"/> Of these, Spiral Static, Hate This & I'll Love You and Plug In Baby were substantially different to their final incarnations.<ref name="ml20071101"/> The tape was sent to Paul Nicko by Michael Stone around the same time as the Newtown Demo Tape, but it's status currently is unknown and is assumed to be missing/lost in transit by the postal service.<ref name="ml20080508">
These songs contain no crowd noise and thus have been speculated by Stoner as possibly being a demo.<ref name="ml20071101"/> Of these, Spiral Static, Hate This & I'll Love You and Plug In Baby were substantially different to their final incarnations.<ref name="ml20071101"/> The tape was sent to Paul Nicko by Michael Stone around the same time as the Newtown Demo Tape, but it's status currently is unknown and is assumed to be missing/lost in transit by the postal service.<ref name="ml20080508">
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The plan was for the tape to be ripped in the same fashion as [[Newton Abbot demo (demo) | Newton Abbot demo]]. When the tape went missing in the post, those involved waited in case the tape was recovered. In September 2009 however, they gave up and released a rip made by Michael Stone before the tape was posted.<ref name="ml20090909">
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Revision as of 15:29, 19 September 2009

Muse show
Venue Plymouth Hoe[1]
Date 15th August 1997[2][3][4]
Location Plymouth[4]
Country United Kingdom
Songs 13[4][5]
Support Unknown
Start (UTC+1) Unknown
Capacity Unknown
Price Free[6]
Sold out? Unknown


Muse performed on Friday the 15th of August[3] at the Soundwaves festival in Plymouth.[7] The festival took place on the Hoe, a prominade on the sea front, and spanned from the 15th to the 17th.[6]

Matthew Bellamy purportedly had a Pro Co RAT pedal, which stopped working and he kicked it around for "5 minutes".[1]

Michael "Stoner" Stone, the author of the recording, was acquainted with the band at the time of this performance.[5] Bellamy addressed him as "Stoney" before Overdue.[8] This was the debut of Hate This & I'll Love you, as Dominic Howard said at the end of said song.[5]

Speech

After Spiral Static Bellamy "Thank you".[8]
Before Overdue "Uh, how are we doing for time? ... Uh, right uh, this next song is on our CD, it's called Overdue. Right Stoney? Uh, yeah, it's a good song".[8]

Media

Muse's performance was broadcast over a local radio station. Michael Stone, or his brother, made a tape recording of this broadcast.[4][2] Of this, a clip of Overdue surfaced on the 8th of August[9] and of Spiral Static on the 31st October.[10] A recording of the whole tape can be obtained here.

As well as the Soundwaves gig, this recording also has five songs at the end.[5][11] In order, they are:

  1. Spiral Static
  2. Plug In Baby
  3. Do We Need This
  4. Hate This & I'll love You
  5. Showbiz

These songs contain no crowd noise and thus have been speculated by Stoner as possibly being a demo.[5] Of these, Spiral Static, Hate This & I'll Love You and Plug In Baby were substantially different to their final incarnations.[5] The tape was sent to Paul Nicko by Michael Stone around the same time as the Newtown Demo Tape, but it's status currently is unknown and is assumed to be missing/lost in transit by the postal service.[12]

The plan was for the tape to be ripped in the same fashion as Newton Abbot demo. When the tape went missing in the post, those involved waited in case the tape was recovered. In September 2009 however, they gave up and released a rip made by Michael Stone before the tape was posted.[11]

Setlist

References

  1. a b Alex "uno_axl". (2007-08-05). [Muselive forum post]. Retrieved from www.muselive.com.
  2. a b Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; no text was provided for refs named ml20070803c
  3. a b (1997). [Press Cutting]. Retrieved 2009. [verify]
  4. a b c d Michael Stone. (2007-08-03). [Muse forum post]. Retrieved from board.muse.mu.
  5. a b c d e f Michael Stone. (2007-11-01). [Muselive forum post]. Retrieved from www.muselive.com.
  6. a b bonnietyler.com. PLYMOUTH SOUNDWAVES CONCERT -17 AUGUST 1997. Retrieved from bonnietyler.com.
  7. Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; no text was provided for refs named mub20070802
  8. a b c Recording
  9. mattocaster17. (2007-08-03). muse plymouth 1997. Retrieved from www.muselive.com.
  10. Michael Stone. (2007-11-01). [Muselive forum post]. Retrieved from www.muselive.com.
  11. a b Michael 'Stoner' Stone. (2009-09-09). [Muselive post]. Retrieved 2009-09-18 from www.muselive.com. Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; name "ml20090909" defined multiple times with different content
  12. paul_nicko. (2008-05-08). [Muselive forum post]. Retrieved from www.muselive.com.

See also


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