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::Only once during my duration here has someone been promoted, and that person became inactive only a matter of months later and has never been heard from since. I'll admit that it made me reconsider the work I put into here, and after my request was turned down in early September, I've effectively quit this site. I can only do so much and put in so much time. [[User:GameGear360|GameGear360]] ([[User talk:GameGear360|talk]]) 20:50, 15 October 2018 (BST)
::Only once during my duration here has someone been promoted, and that person became inactive only a matter of months later and has never been heard from since. I'll admit that it made me reconsider the work I put into here, and after my request was turned down in early September, I've effectively quit this site. I can only do so much and put in so much time. [[User:GameGear360|GameGear360]] ([[User talk:GameGear360|talk]]) 20:50, 15 October 2018 (BST)
::: If I had the chance to jump ship, I would, but unfortunately, there's not much choice. [https://wiki.ncla.me/index.php?title=London_Shepherds_Bush_Empire_2017_(gig)I cloned a while ago MuseWiki pages] to see how easy it was to upgrade and get your own wiki running, and it was pretty easy. I really wish crazybobbles would just hand the keys to someone else who actually has interest in running it, or at least embrace it partially.
::: That got me thinking. Since we are of very little here and I do not see it changing soon, what about a peaceful protest of not contributing? The whole reason I pushed crazybobbles to upgrade MediaWiki is to get fancier editor, but the editor hasn't happened yet, and it makes my head boil when I have to edit with an editor from 2008 or something. --[[User:Ncla|Ncla]] ([[User talk:Ncla|talk]]) 21:48, 15 October 2018 (BST)
::: Okay, just making sure, we all realize that this site having basically no moderators is ''really really bad'', right? - [[User:CommenterOfComments|Commenter]] ([[User talk:CommenterOfComments|talk]]) 21:35, 15 October 2018 (BST)
:::: Don't think it's a problem, at least it hasn't been so far, since the wiki is not open for registration. I guess we have been lucky. Regardless, open registration should be brought back along with moderators to have more activity on site. --[[User:Ncla|Ncla]] ([[User talk:Ncla|talk]]) 21:50, 15 October 2018 (BST)
::::: Open administration is necessary for a thriving site. Many potential editors have to wait months on end to have their accounts approved to edit, by that point many have already lost interest. I believe it was mostly a result of a surge in anonymous spambots that created thousands of pornographic/vandalism articles, many of which were never truly deleted and can still be accessed (something I've wanted taken care of for many years now). My non-editing protest has been active since September and I intend to (mostly) keep it that way. Worst case scenario, a website clone wouldn't necessarily be a bad idea in my eyes if it means the site can be kept updated and given an opportunity to be expanded on in ways this outdated system cannot be expanded. [[User:GameGear360|GameGear360]] ([[User talk:GameGear360|talk]]) 23:35, 15 October 2018 (BST)
:::::: I'd join [[The Resistance (album) | the resistance]], but grammar mistakes in wiki pages pain me if I can't fix them, and I love making [[Believeinurself | these]] [[User:CommenterOfComments | meme]] [[Page | pages]] :( - [[User:CommenterOfComments|Commenter]] ([[User talk:CommenterOfComments|talk]]) 05:15, 16 October 2018 (BST)
::::::: This (United) State (of Eurasia) needs a new parliament, the confederation of the Knights (of Cydonia, of course). Wish we could be the new mods or something like that. In the end we're the most active users nowadays. [[User:HyperChondriacMuser|HyperChondriacMuser]] 13:49, 16 October 2018
:::::::: Most of the work that required a mod / admin (protected pages mostly) were sorted years ago. The other part of being a mod was to simply ban spam but that hasn't been an issue due to the registration process being done manually. If there were a mod team we'd need a new reason for them to exist in the first place as well as a reason for why they wouldn't lose interest and stop working on the wiki (which many have done so). --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] ([[User talk:Crazybobbles|talk]]) 16:55, 16 October 2018 (BST)
::::::::: Did you even read the part that said "Many potential editors have to wait months on end to have their accounts approved to edit, by that point many have already lost interest"? The manual registration made sense when the site was being spam botted, sure. But it's been fucking years. How do we even know they're still there? How will we ever know if we lock ourselves off? It's a terrible idea as of now. If they start invading again, close the registration again if you don't want to trust anyone to be a moderator, I don't care. But if you never even try, you're throwing out a lot of potential editors who would ''love'' to help out. All I'm saying is, give it a shot. Try opening it up, and see if we get spammed again. If we do, it's 100% reversible, and you can just close it back up like I said. Besides, moderators have other purposes. They could delete [http://www.musewiki.org/Category:Deletion_requests all of these that never got actually deleted for no reason.] They could update the protected pages that ''we'' can't. Assuming they could have the power (idk how wiki admins work), they could fix bugs in the site (like [https://imgur.com/a/vI279Yy some pages having no CSS], or the [[ User_talk:Crazybobbles#updating_existing_images_-_problem_saying_im_logged_out.3F.21 | problem with file pages]]), they could help with the manual creation process if you're in deep romantic love with that system, and they could even develop the site for you (adding new features, updating the CSS, all that stuff). It's 2018, crazybobbles.
:::::::::: Is there any reason to still have any protected pages? Otherwise we would only need a mod to approve registration. I'm leery to do the auto registration because we could end up with a spam problem again. So just unprotect all those unnecessary pages and appoint 1 or 2 mods to approve registration. Is that being too simplistic? --[[User:Mnero|Mnero]] ([[User talk:Mnero|talk]]) 12:15, 17 October 2018 (EST)
::::::::::: I'll take that. It's something. - [[User:CommenterOfComments|Commenter]] ([[User talk:CommenterOfComments|talk]]) 17:31, 17 October 2018 (BST)

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How about me? I think I've done quite a bit ... -Tene

And if you can call my total blitzing of the discography with wonderful Musey treasures and pics from around the world helping out... :D ۞ 17:21, 24 September 2006 (BST)

Star shape weirdo here has my backing, if that counts for anything. ;) --Tene 18:01, 24 September 2006 (BST)
There we go :D welcome to the team :D --crazybobbles 20:48, 24 September 2006 (BST)
Muchly appreciated :) ۞ 16:25, 27 September 2006 (BST)

How about me? (if spontaneous renovation counts as helping a lot) 7 20:06, 13 January 2008 (GMT)

Read below, though I'm considering making you a sysop, just give it time --crazybobbles 11:36, 19 February 2008 (GMT)


New members

I don't know where to post this, this might look pretentious or whatever but anyway, thanks a lot crazybobbles. Glad to belong to the team :) --Susurr0 12:37, 19 February 2008 (GMT)

Indeed, many thanks! ۞ 18:44, 19 February 2008 (GMT)

Inactivity

Almost half of those listed here aren't active, and haven't been for some time. I suggest some sort of seperate inactive/hiatus list for those whom are not active. That's basically all apart from ۞, Crazybobbles, Mrmadadam and myself. --Tene 18:38, 13 April 2007 (BST)

Yup, perhaps a special mention for those who helped set up he place to begin with, while it was secret. ۞ 00:16, 14 April 2007 (BST)

Should we bother having this?

Perhaps a quick template showing you're awesome on your profile would suffice, but it's not like anyone reads this bit haha and it kinda confuses the wiki vibe, I think anyone who's contributed should simply be given a sysop status for being responsible enough --crazybobbles 11:36, 19 February 2008 (GMT)

With all due respect to those who you deem responsible, the idea more adminships for more potentially "corruptable" people would be, I think, dangerous. Especially with such a small wiki, we now have three-four active admins. There's simply no point in giving more people the ability to screw everything up for whatever reason; bitterness, disagreement, etc.
This is a "ceremonial" title that might motivate people. Plus it's a way of saying "thanks", but if adminship is given as an incentive to contribute, then the wrong people will end up with sysop status.
..and to 'bobbles: Good choice of admins, btw --Tene 18:08, 19 February 2008 (GMT)
I wouldn't start adding any tom dick or harry as sysops, it's for those I feel would actually be able to utilise the status to improve the wiki. Of course any form of screwing up can all be reversible and the offending person can be banned immediately ;) I suppose keeping this here can have it's uses for saying thank you for their hardwork (and we like thanking people :)) I guess it's best for my to rewrite it so it actually says something about it then --crazybobbles 21:09, 5 March 2008 (GMT)

Wow.

I know I'm relatively new to Musewiki, but I'm pretty sure that this page is severely outdated. Regret Tenenbaum 21:05, 15 March 2008 (GMT)

Why? Feel free to nominate those who have contributed in the order of that which those who are already listed have done.... --Tene 06:00, 16 March 2008 (GMT)

Okay so basically we have no mods

Tene hasn't contributed since 2012

۞ hasn't contributed since 2010

The rest are obviously inactive


Some of these people listed aren't even mods

Some people who are mods aren't listed on this page (and EVEN THEN, ALL OF THOSE UNLISTED PEOPLE ARE DEAD TOO)

Does this mean there's literally no mods besides crazybobbles (who even then isn't super active, but at the very least alive)? - Commenter of Comments (talk) 07:27, 15 October 2018 (BST)

Yes --Ncla (talk) 11:31, 15 October 2018 (BST)
Aside from Crazybobbles, no admin has contributed to this site in any way whatsoever since before the release of Drones. To add onto this, after adding over 3500 edits over the course of the five-ish years I've been here, in addition to monitoring the site daily and discovering over 150 unknown setlists and creating the single largest site-wide expansion in years, I requested administrator permissions and I was denied. There is unlikely to be any change in this any time soon.
Only once during my duration here has someone been promoted, and that person became inactive only a matter of months later and has never been heard from since. I'll admit that it made me reconsider the work I put into here, and after my request was turned down in early September, I've effectively quit this site. I can only do so much and put in so much time. GameGear360 (talk) 20:50, 15 October 2018 (BST)
If I had the chance to jump ship, I would, but unfortunately, there's not much choice. cloned a while ago MuseWiki pages to see how easy it was to upgrade and get your own wiki running, and it was pretty easy. I really wish crazybobbles would just hand the keys to someone else who actually has interest in running it, or at least embrace it partially.
That got me thinking. Since we are of very little here and I do not see it changing soon, what about a peaceful protest of not contributing? The whole reason I pushed crazybobbles to upgrade MediaWiki is to get fancier editor, but the editor hasn't happened yet, and it makes my head boil when I have to edit with an editor from 2008 or something. --Ncla (talk) 21:48, 15 October 2018 (BST)
Okay, just making sure, we all realize that this site having basically no moderators is really really bad, right? - Commenter (talk) 21:35, 15 October 2018 (BST)
Don't think it's a problem, at least it hasn't been so far, since the wiki is not open for registration. I guess we have been lucky. Regardless, open registration should be brought back along with moderators to have more activity on site. --Ncla (talk) 21:50, 15 October 2018 (BST)
Open administration is necessary for a thriving site. Many potential editors have to wait months on end to have their accounts approved to edit, by that point many have already lost interest. I believe it was mostly a result of a surge in anonymous spambots that created thousands of pornographic/vandalism articles, many of which were never truly deleted and can still be accessed (something I've wanted taken care of for many years now). My non-editing protest has been active since September and I intend to (mostly) keep it that way. Worst case scenario, a website clone wouldn't necessarily be a bad idea in my eyes if it means the site can be kept updated and given an opportunity to be expanded on in ways this outdated system cannot be expanded. GameGear360 (talk) 23:35, 15 October 2018 (BST)
I'd join the resistance, but grammar mistakes in wiki pages pain me if I can't fix them, and I love making these meme pages :( - Commenter (talk) 05:15, 16 October 2018 (BST)
This (United) State (of Eurasia) needs a new parliament, the confederation of the Knights (of Cydonia, of course). Wish we could be the new mods or something like that. In the end we're the most active users nowadays. HyperChondriacMuser 13:49, 16 October 2018
Most of the work that required a mod / admin (protected pages mostly) were sorted years ago. The other part of being a mod was to simply ban spam but that hasn't been an issue due to the registration process being done manually. If there were a mod team we'd need a new reason for them to exist in the first place as well as a reason for why they wouldn't lose interest and stop working on the wiki (which many have done so). --crazybobbles (talk) 16:55, 16 October 2018 (BST)
Did you even read the part that said "Many potential editors have to wait months on end to have their accounts approved to edit, by that point many have already lost interest"? The manual registration made sense when the site was being spam botted, sure. But it's been fucking years. How do we even know they're still there? How will we ever know if we lock ourselves off? It's a terrible idea as of now. If they start invading again, close the registration again if you don't want to trust anyone to be a moderator, I don't care. But if you never even try, you're throwing out a lot of potential editors who would love to help out. All I'm saying is, give it a shot. Try opening it up, and see if we get spammed again. If we do, it's 100% reversible, and you can just close it back up like I said. Besides, moderators have other purposes. They could delete all of these that never got actually deleted for no reason. They could update the protected pages that we can't. Assuming they could have the power (idk how wiki admins work), they could fix bugs in the site (like some pages having no CSS, or the problem with file pages), they could help with the manual creation process if you're in deep romantic love with that system, and they could even develop the site for you (adding new features, updating the CSS, all that stuff). It's 2018, crazybobbles.
Is there any reason to still have any protected pages? Otherwise we would only need a mod to approve registration. I'm leery to do the auto registration because we could end up with a spam problem again. So just unprotect all those unnecessary pages and appoint 1 or 2 mods to approve registration. Is that being too simplistic? --Mnero (talk) 12:15, 17 October 2018 (EST)
I'll take that. It's something. - Commenter (talk) 17:31, 17 October 2018 (BST)