Category talk:Songs

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Article format protocol

I think it would be good to have a standard format for song articles, i.e.

  • (Infobox)
  • Description
Description of the song
  • Additional Information
What the song is about, miscellaneous info
  • Recording
Information about the recording of the song, where it came from
  • Live
Any comments about the songs live presence
  • Alternative versions
Info on any alternative versions to the standard (album/b-side) release
  • Lyrics
Lyrics and alternative lyrics
  • References
List of citations
  • See also
Link to any other related songs

Song previews

I'm currently investing in having song previews on each page, I can either do it using last.fm's radio player or with a more neater looking flash module but I'd have to host the files and all. I'm very tempted in the latter since I've got quite alot of bandwidth at my disposal now so yeah. The quality should be about 60kbps for 30 seconds, that or we can even reduce the seconds and add more quality to it. Suggestions folks, I've done a demo on Apocalypse Please so you can check that out, its only the lastfm one for now but soon Ill add the other demos --crazybobbles 15:16, 18 May 2007 (BST)

Subcatagories

Remixes should be in the subcatagories section, and the sub catagories really dont need to be listed by letter. i would fix it myself but i cant work out how/ if i can :P --Wilfio 16:08, 20 March 2007 (GMT)

also should there be subcatagories for B sides and singles?--Wilfio 17:18, 20 March 2007 (GMT)

Live

there could be a 'last performed live' bit under the song title. i dont know how this could be implemented but it something i have always wondered about. -wilfio

[Don't know how old this message is etc.] A good idea but could become impratical when Muse a playing a gig every few days. I suppose if we used "active" or something to show currently played songs like SBH and TIRO ۞ 21:16, 13 March 2007 (GMT)
yeh thats what i was thinking. i dont expect there is any way to do it automatically --Wilfio 22:53, 13 March 2007 (GMT)


burning bridges

Burning Bridges is under S. I'd edit it myself if I could.

Templates

I've created a basic template as my first (minor) helping-out on this wiki... as I've said, it's basic, but it should work to keep the songs pages looking trim until somebody better at this kind of thing can jazz it up in a craazy Muse style :-) Karma Llama 22:12, 4 March 2006 (EST)

it's at Template:Songbox

Demo songs

Feed, Sling, Backdoor, and Jigsaw Memory - Muse's demo songs, need to be added to the database as well as a mention of that demo.

I've moved the above moved from the category page --Tene 15:41, 1 August 2006 (BST)

The songs on the demotape page link nowhere - should we create song pages for them? This seems like the right place for them - whether they've been released, played and/or heard or not, they're still Muse songs I suppose. Plus apparently Matt still plays a riff from Sling at some gigs ۞ 10:04, 22 August 2006 (BST)

I don't understand why Song pages haven't been created for the songs yet... Easily got a song page created as soon as it was heard of, and it hasn't even been released yet. These demo songs have been confirmed and should take priority. How hard can it be to create a song page? No worries though, I created a website dedicated to that very demo, "This Is A Muse Demo" now. =)

This is a wiki, you're a member, do it yourself. Don't expect the regulars to do everything, chip in. --Tene 12:32, 24 August 2006 (BST)

Unrecorded and abandonned songs

I have a list of sopngs use played in battle of the bands contests, and of songs that were never recorded:

  • Small Minded
  • A Turn to Stone
  • Yellow Regret
  • Weakening Walls
  • Pointless Loss

(These were all mentioned on the MUSE13 promo CD) Among other unreleased songs/alternative titles are:

  • Electro Empire (alt name for futurism)
  • Origin of Symmetry (maybe an alt name for something...)
  • Apolitical (alt name for darkshines)
  • OOS Intro Riff
  • A rerecording of Plug in Baby

So...what shall I do with this info. The dmeo tape songs were added, would it be ok to add some of Muse's/RBD's even older songs? ۞ 01:36, 18 September 2006 (BST)

Disambiguation

I don't know is this is the place to ask this. If it isn't, just tell me. Why don't create a page with each song that have videoclip and single (for example, Bliss)? That article could be called "Bliss" and be a disambiguation article, with Bliss (song), Bliss (video) and Bliss (single). What do you think? --Susurr0 21:50, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Sounds good, I'll make a template for it and we'll shove that in for pages that are disambiguous, most likely going to copy wikipedia (like most things hehe) --crazybobbles 21:34, 17 September 2006 (BST)

Full Colour

Somebody add 'Full Colour', the Map Of The Problematique B-side? Rabbits 14:04, 1 October 2006 (BST)

Me thought Full Colour was supposed to be the SUPERMASSIVE BLACK HOLE b-side? --Terry 14:10, 1 October 2006 (BST)
Sorry. Mixed up a bit. Rabbits 10:14, 5 October 2006 (BST)

Capitalisation

A comprehensive guide to capitalisation in titles resides here ... In summary, Plug in Baby should be Plug In Baby, and Time is Running Out should be Time Is Running Out, as both 'in' and 'is' in these contexts are verbs. I suggest changing them to such when editing pages for other reasons ... Unless someone wants to go nuts and go through the entire list of mentions. --Tene 17:45, 29 November 2006 (GMT)

I'll happily go through the gigs and media sections and check all those.--Jakalope 12:19, 21 March 2007 (GMT)

Seperate categorgy for random riffs

If it a good idea to seperate random riffs muse play at gigs from actually recorded full covers and original muse songs? It seems a bit excessive to me creating a new song article every time Matt randomly plays a riff from some random song he's listening too ۞ 21:16, 13 March 2007 (GMT)

Makes sense. In the same vein, how about moving the songs they played at Battle Of The Bands or whatever to their own categroy? That way the songs category is just songs that have been recorded by Muse.--Jakalope 12:18, 21 March 2007 (GMT)
I don't think we should have too many categories. I suggest one new umbrella category: unrecorded. --Tene 15:24, 21 March 2007 (GMT)
i second that, unrecorded sounds like a good idea --Wilfio 18:41, 21 March 2007 (GMT)
sounds good to me--Jakalope 10:09, 23 March 2007 (GMT)

Writer credits

I think it's incorrect to give Matthew Bellamy all the writing credits of Absolution, when it says in the sleeve notes that "Music by Matthew Bellamy, Chris Wolstenholme & Dominic Howard". Anyone agree? I think it should be changed.. --isitmeforamoment? 16 June 2007

Since no-one has replyed to me, I made some changes to Absolution. Like they should be..

Close Encounters

Should it be called Close Encounters riff or Close Encounters outro or Close Encounters intro? --Z 00:48, 21 December 2007 (GMT)

Separate Song Page

It bothers me a bit that things like the videography have special, customized pages and yet the page for songs is a simple category page. That's a bit lazy if you ask me, so would anyone object if I made a page for songs similar to the discography? 7 02:06, 4 January 2008 (GMT)

I think the songs should be in charts separated by era, like so.. Black Holes and Revelations Era

# Song Name Type
1 Take a Bow Song
2 Starlight Song
x Dance of the Knights Intro

7 02:34, 4 January 2008 (GMT)

Sounds like a good idea. The current songs category is quite unorganised (all kinds of songs mixed together), so a separate page specifying album tracks, non album tracks, live versions etc. in different eras, like you've suggested, would make sense. ۞ 03:11, 4 January 2008 (GMT)

Alright, I'll make a prototype on User:7/Song Anthology Project. Help would be appreciated! 7 03:30, 4 January 2008 (GMT)

Intro Music

i think naming songs that were used for intro music with the (song) tag is confusing. It makes it sound like the songs were played by muse. actually it looks like only What's he Building? has the song tag but i think there needs to be a rule for this anyway.

--Wilfio 16:55, 4 January 2008 (GMT)

Osaka Bass Riff

Since this has been played live now (12th April 2008) shouldn't this be put on the songs page? -- nuttyboy 12:27, 13th April 2008

If anything all the riffs and jams currently in (song) article form should be deleted and put in the Riffs and Jams page. I never really saw the point in separate articles for a couple of bars of a song plays at gigs, unless they ever develop into full or otherwise substantial covers. ۞ 18:44, 14 April 2008 (BST)
I agree with ۞, for what it's worth. Things like Burning Bridges don't need to be here. -Jakalope 02:50, 28 April 2008 (BST)

Instruments used

Just an idea I've had to list the instruments used in the studio recording of each song on their individual pages. This would really help out people wanting to do covers I think. Apologies if this has already been integrated into the TAB part of the Wiki --Sairy fairy 21:18, 1 June 2008 (BST)

This is a good idea. If you can work out a template or something to use in every song it could be inserted under the lyrics. ۞ 19:03, 13 August 2008 (BST)

Matt Bellamy songs

In light of Matt's contribution to the The International soundtrack, should we create a new category called "Matthew Bellamy songs" for those Matt (but not Muse) has contributed to? Seems like they should be on here somewhere - and the OST on part of the discography, but not under this category. Besides, a solo project probably isn't too far off and this isn't likely his last OST contribution. ۞ 19:36, 22 February 2009 (GMT)

Removing some messiness

Would anyone mind if I we were to change the songbox convention, such that track numbers aren't included in the Album field? Track numbers are a little irrelevant - and I imagine that anyone wishing to find such detailed information for a particular release would follow a link to said release. --Tene 11:36, 1 July 2009 (BST)

Running Titles

Should the running titles for LP6 have their own pages? There's very little information around any of them besides the one twitter picture that lasted for a few seconds. I wonder if it should be left as is or kept only in the 6th Album page. --Kueller917 5:34, 12 March 2012 (PST)